In a contemporary interview, the duo spoke about some starry-eyed encounters with their cultural heroes and how the #MeToo motion has affected comedy. Here are edited excerpts from the dialog.
How did the two of you meet and get started running in combination?
PHOEBE ROBINSON I used to be doing background paintings for a “Daily Show” piece she used to be doing on black ladies’s hair, which may be very apropos for us.
JESSICA WILLIAMS It’s our emblem. I had identified about her as a result of I got here up at U.C.B. L.A. and she got here up at U.C.B. New York. My birthday used to be arising, and she used to be like, “What’s something you’ve always wanted to do?” I used to be like, “Well, I’ve always wanted to try stand-up.” She invited me to co-host her are living display, and we simply had a ton of amusing. We had been like, “Whoa.”
ROBINSON It used to be like a super first date. I modified my standing to “It’s complicated.”
Given all the time you spend in combination, how do you stay issues spontaneous for your presentations?
WILLIAMS We’re all the time looking to marvel each and every different. Sometimes we save tales about ourselves for once we’re doing a display.
ROBINSON We recorded a podcast the place we each, inside the similar week, had racist reviews with cabdrivers in New York. We had been like, “Let’s save this for the stage.” Sometimes it syncs up, like sessions. When she met J. Okay. Rowling, she instructed me a bit bit, however she used to be like, “I want to save it for when I do the podcast.”
What used to be it like to satisfy J. Okay. Rowling?
WILLIAMS I sought after to be lovable however sublime. I sought after to suggest that I used to be a wizard, so I wore this little two-piece. It used to be wild and hilarious. But additionally, she [Phoebe] met Bono.
ROBINSON We did a display at Bonnaroo and U2 used to be headlining. The night time prior to, we were given invited to this charity dinner, and they had been like, “Bono might be there.” So I’m like, “I’m going to dress like a tasteful ho.”
WILLIAMS A conservative thot.
ROBINSON I’m no longer looking to get a divorce a wedding, however I do need a 2nd look. He didn’t attend, however we met every other individuals who had been like, “They’re doing a sound check tonight. Do you guys want to come?” I instantly began crying.
WILLIAMS We had been going to peer “Wonder Woman.” I had unquestionably already purchased the tickets. It used to be instantly like, “Oh, cool, our date is canceled.”
ROBINSON I were given to move see this dude. It used to be so unfeminist. [Shows off a photo of Bono embracing her.]
How did you pitch this collection to HBO?
ROBINSON First of all, we had been like, “We’re going to be greedy and ask for four specials. And also during Black History Month.”
WILLIAMS Also, we’d like a hair finances.
ROBINSON We had been like, “Maybe we’ll change this and add all this stuff to it,” and HBO used to be like, “Can you guys just do what you do in the podcast?” They appreciated our banter again and forth and the truth that we've got feminine comedians, folks of colour, queer comedians on. And then we do amusing superstar interviews.
Since you focal point on performers who're underrepresented in comedy, did you're feeling extra power about whom you selected to be in those specials?
ROBINSON We simply sought after to verify it used to be a take hold of bag. I believe like we had 12 stand-u.s.on and no person’s set appears like someone else’s. Everyone has an excessively distinct perspective, and that used to be in the long run the maximum necessary factor for us.
WILLIAMS We’re humorous, however for each and every couple of black girls which are humorous, there are 1,000,000 different black girls which are additionally very humorous. So it’s cool to be like, “Hey, homies, come hang out.” More like that than “C’mon, we’re going to give you a shot, kid.”
A large number of sexual misconduct by way of distinguished male comedians and different entertainers has been uncovered in fresh months. How has that affected you and your colleagues?
ROBINSON I’ve skilled harassment. I’ve had male comedians be very beside the point. And when persons are published to be what’s been rumored, however they’ve been secure for goodbye, it's excellent to peer that particular person extracted out. There’s such a lot of careers that didn’t occur as a result of ladies are like, “I can’t deal with this harassment. I’m going to leave this industry.” What’s taking place presently — dismantling those icons we’ve constructed up — is in reality excellent, particularly when it’s males who're preventing in reality exhausting to be feminists, however they’re secretly doing very beside the point conduct. That’s distracting to the exact feminist motion.
How will we be sure that the beneficial properties of the #MeToo motion are preserved?
ROBINSON What’s necessary is to have extra ladies creators in the back of the scenes, being manufacturers and being in rate. That will in the long run assist push this boys’ membership, locker-room mentality out the door. You’re no longer going to be secure, so it's important to act correctly.
When your superstar visitors are introduced out on “2 Dope Queens,” you appear as excited as your target audience. Were you particularly delighted to satisfy Sarah Jessica Parker?
WILLIAMS We’re geeking out simply up to everyone else. If any person walks out that you just in fact love like that, and you’re no longer excited, you’re doing it improper.
ROBINSON I’m nonetheless dressed in her fragrance. I’m looking to get her to be our pal. We’ve were given to put on her fragrance, purchase her sneakers.
WILLIAMS Get the cookies from Costco that she likes.
ROBINSON I will’t imagine she stores at Costco. Was lie?
WILLIAMS She would by no means deceive us.
In your own careers, Jessica, you could have a job in the subsequent “Fantastic Beasts” film.
WILLIAMS I do. I’m so excited.
ROBINSON We’re additionally in “Black Panther.”
WILLIAMS We’re no longer on this one, according to se, however keep after the credit. We could be for your theater.